what_if
08-11 06:40 AM
Thanks Deecha,
My wife's case may or may not be fine. She came on H4 and got her H1 in 2004 but got a project only in the middle of 2005 and the company started paying her only once she was on project. But thats fine. If her 485 gets rejected (although the company not paying her is not really her fault), we'll just pack our bags :) Also, her I-140 is still pending.
I appreciate your taking time for my question.
Since you're a beneficiary of you're wife's AOS, you're in "pending status of authorized stay". Therefore you *are* authorized to stay here as of that day until a decision on the 485 is made (the unlawful stay clock stops ticking). If you get rejected on your H1 extension, you can still stay in the country and possibly work on the EAD (a derivative benefit of the 485). If you think your wife's 485 is airtight, and there's a problem later you can use the 245(k) provision since you were in unlawful stay for less than 180 days.
My wife's case may or may not be fine. She came on H4 and got her H1 in 2004 but got a project only in the middle of 2005 and the company started paying her only once she was on project. But thats fine. If her 485 gets rejected (although the company not paying her is not really her fault), we'll just pack our bags :) Also, her I-140 is still pending.
I appreciate your taking time for my question.
Since you're a beneficiary of you're wife's AOS, you're in "pending status of authorized stay". Therefore you *are* authorized to stay here as of that day until a decision on the 485 is made (the unlawful stay clock stops ticking). If you get rejected on your H1 extension, you can still stay in the country and possibly work on the EAD (a derivative benefit of the 485). If you think your wife's 485 is airtight, and there's a problem later you can use the 245(k) provision since you were in unlawful stay for less than 180 days.
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cs.0
08-10 11:21 AM
Hi,
My company is located in CA state. Currenlty i am working in Client place i.e in Oregon state.
My labor and I140 got approved in my old residence CA address.Now i applied I485 for me and my wife by showing Oregon state address thorugh my same employer which is located in CA state.
Pls clarify, wheather this new address will make any impact on my I485 process(approval).Becoz some ppl in forums are mentioning that, if we don't have LCA for new state then I485 maybe denied becoz of "out of status".
pls help in this regard.:)
thanks,
chethan
My company is located in CA state. Currenlty i am working in Client place i.e in Oregon state.
My labor and I140 got approved in my old residence CA address.Now i applied I485 for me and my wife by showing Oregon state address thorugh my same employer which is located in CA state.
Pls clarify, wheather this new address will make any impact on my I485 process(approval).Becoz some ppl in forums are mentioning that, if we don't have LCA for new state then I485 maybe denied becoz of "out of status".
pls help in this regard.:)
thanks,
chethan
amitjoey
06-16 11:56 AM
A Great Big Thank You to all of you who have been Contributing to enable IV to organize an event of this proportion.
Thank You IV for providing us with this platform to get our voices heard where it matters the most. Go IV!
The phenomenal experience of actually doing something positive to solve our problems is - but I am just acknowledging the great enthusiasm that was vibrating with our members - they realized the gravity of the situation, the opportunity that was within their grasp and wanted to make the best use of it. Hats off to you guys!!
IV realizes that our strength lies within our members and their dedication - both in terms of participation and funding. And if there is one thing that almost every single participant took home from the event is that - we still have a long way to go and we need far more support and participation. .
Thank You needhelp!, Devang, StarSun for summarizing the DC Experience. Each one of us that went to DC came back with a more positive outlook, the satisfaction of doing something good. I will write in detail my personal experience, but in a nutshell- The camaraderie, the enthusiasm and the tireless effort that some members put in is just commendable.
Thank You IV for providing us with this platform to get our voices heard where it matters the most. Go IV!
The phenomenal experience of actually doing something positive to solve our problems is - but I am just acknowledging the great enthusiasm that was vibrating with our members - they realized the gravity of the situation, the opportunity that was within their grasp and wanted to make the best use of it. Hats off to you guys!!
IV realizes that our strength lies within our members and their dedication - both in terms of participation and funding. And if there is one thing that almost every single participant took home from the event is that - we still have a long way to go and we need far more support and participation. .
Thank You needhelp!, Devang, StarSun for summarizing the DC Experience. Each one of us that went to DC came back with a more positive outlook, the satisfaction of doing something good. I will write in detail my personal experience, but in a nutshell- The camaraderie, the enthusiasm and the tireless effort that some members put in is just commendable.
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07-06 05:34 PM
Order Number: FNK1821176
Order Date: Friday 07/06/2007
Delivery On: Tuesday 07/10/2007
Delivery To: Emilio Gonzalez
Business
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service
20 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20314-0001
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Gift Message: Thank you for showing a little hope and then taking
it away. We hope you enjoyed it.
Order Date: Friday 07/06/2007
Delivery On: Tuesday 07/10/2007
Delivery To: Emilio Gonzalez
Business
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service
20 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20314-0001
USA
2023578100
Gift Message: Thank you for showing a little hope and then taking
it away. We hope you enjoyed it.
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paskal
12-18 05:10 PM
yup...that should be doable for all
$20 each person
more if you can
but do the 20!
$20 each person
more if you can
but do the 20!
jediknight
12-07 12:57 AM
As someone who is dealing with a screwed up legal immigration system, I find it funny when the "Anti-Illegal Immigration" folks talk about following to the law.
Clean up the legal immigration system first and then round up and deport all the folks who don't follow the law.
I am fine with deporting this woman but please treat her with dignity as a human first.
- JK
PS - BTW, I support the Death penalty but even for those on Death row, we should treat them with basic human dignity.
Also, I find it funny, when folks who have paid for labor substitution talk about Illegals getting better deals.
Clean up the legal immigration system first and then round up and deport all the folks who don't follow the law.
I am fine with deporting this woman but please treat her with dignity as a human first.
- JK
PS - BTW, I support the Death penalty but even for those on Death row, we should treat them with basic human dignity.
Also, I find it funny, when folks who have paid for labor substitution talk about Illegals getting better deals.
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jsb
08-27 10:33 AM
I dont know if i agree that ND will dictate approval. On there are several approvals with RD and ND in 2008. What explains that?
Since we are not there we can't know the whole process, but it is true that there is always some logic when it appears to be random. We just don't know that. And that logic is not always fair, as is the case in visa distributions.
Published processing dates can mean anything between two extremes (i) Everything filed before published date has been processed, (ii) Nothing after the published date has been processed. Most likely it is close to (i). Thus, if published processing date is Aug 30 '07, it does not mean that they have not looked at any case filed after this date. I believe cases are distributed in lots, not one at a time. And if someone takes his/her lot of 1000 cases for processing, and then goes on vacation for 30 days - the lot just waits at his/her desk. Therefore, even if published date is Aug 30'07, it is quite probable that Sept/Oct'07 cases, even later cases, may have been seen. Also, note that published dates are as of June 30, not current.
We don't know the whole story,but are trying to find some logic in what goes on. So, positive view is that if you will be Current in Sept hope for the best.
Since we are not there we can't know the whole process, but it is true that there is always some logic when it appears to be random. We just don't know that. And that logic is not always fair, as is the case in visa distributions.
Published processing dates can mean anything between two extremes (i) Everything filed before published date has been processed, (ii) Nothing after the published date has been processed. Most likely it is close to (i). Thus, if published processing date is Aug 30 '07, it does not mean that they have not looked at any case filed after this date. I believe cases are distributed in lots, not one at a time. And if someone takes his/her lot of 1000 cases for processing, and then goes on vacation for 30 days - the lot just waits at his/her desk. Therefore, even if published date is Aug 30'07, it is quite probable that Sept/Oct'07 cases, even later cases, may have been seen. Also, note that published dates are as of June 30, not current.
We don't know the whole story,but are trying to find some logic in what goes on. So, positive view is that if you will be Current in Sept hope for the best.
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logiclife
07-09 12:45 PM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6191
Additional threads are confusing members.
Sorry I have to close this thread as this has many wrong posts having wrong message and zipcode.
Additional threads are confusing members.
Sorry I have to close this thread as this has many wrong posts having wrong message and zipcode.
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samcam
05-02 10:41 AM
Very nice commentary on npr from Dr. Tejvir Singh..
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5376038
Good Story.. Very well articulated..
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5376038
Good Story.. Very well articulated..
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bsbawa10
09-06 03:26 PM
bsbawa,
also, I think this thread should be made visible to members only.otherwise, moment we start e-mail campaign on Monday, abuse might happen.
Any ideas how to do it?
I am aware of the issue. The only thing I can take care of right now is keep track of the revisions, and I am keeping track of them. (Thanks for the headup sweet_jungle)
also, I think this thread should be made visible to members only.otherwise, moment we start e-mail campaign on Monday, abuse might happen.
Any ideas how to do it?
I am aware of the issue. The only thing I can take care of right now is keep track of the revisions, and I am keeping track of them. (Thanks for the headup sweet_jungle)
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rxk2303
08-09 02:52 AM
I am really sorry about your situation. While, it is true that there is a lot under USCIS' adjudicator's control, we need to give it our best try and exhaust our options before we give up. I think that being Indian, IT and skilled (I am all 3 !) does not have that much of a bearing on one's life situations and connection to green card being approved. Case in point : I went through a rough time myself (see beginning of the thread) and even paid the price (divorce, heartbroken) for taking a chance. However, everyones situation is unique.
If you can post details of your case, then someone from here is sure to be able to give you some guidance. One last piece of advice, there is no substitute for a damn good lawyer who can get you the results. It might not come cheap though. There are instances of people having accrued unlawful stays beyond 1 year and lawyers having gotten them their EB based green cards later through CP using tricks such as waivers etc.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
Deecha,
1).I came to USA on L1-B in 2003 October and the I-94 was till september-2006.
2). Then i changed my Visa to H1-B in 2005.
3). I was asking my employer to file for change of status from L-1 to H-1.
4). Those guys filed for a new H-1 and sent it to a consulate in India.
5). I was not aware of this and i thought i am legal till september the expiration date on my Visa.
6). Labor got cleared in July-2007.
7). Thought i would file for I-140 and I-485 together and found out that my I-94 was expired since September-2006.
What is the best course of action here to remedy my situation??
Any advice or details of a great Immigration lawyer who dealth with such cases before would be of great help.
Thanks in Advance !!
If you can post details of your case, then someone from here is sure to be able to give you some guidance. One last piece of advice, there is no substitute for a damn good lawyer who can get you the results. It might not come cheap though. There are instances of people having accrued unlawful stays beyond 1 year and lawyers having gotten them their EB based green cards later through CP using tricks such as waivers etc.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
Deecha,
1).I came to USA on L1-B in 2003 October and the I-94 was till september-2006.
2). Then i changed my Visa to H1-B in 2005.
3). I was asking my employer to file for change of status from L-1 to H-1.
4). Those guys filed for a new H-1 and sent it to a consulate in India.
5). I was not aware of this and i thought i am legal till september the expiration date on my Visa.
6). Labor got cleared in July-2007.
7). Thought i would file for I-140 and I-485 together and found out that my I-94 was expired since September-2006.
What is the best course of action here to remedy my situation??
Any advice or details of a great Immigration lawyer who dealth with such cases before would be of great help.
Thanks in Advance !!
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alias
11-11 01:21 PM
I have a one year old; I went through nanny shopping and finally decided to keep our baby in the daycare. I would tell you on top of my voice - go to the cops immediately, this is simply unacceptable. I can't imagine how someone can hit a 8 months old. I can't imagine how someone can hit a 8 months old. I'm sitting here, my hand is shaking with anger. If I were you, i would not worry anything about her status, you saw an advertisement and you hired, you can argue that if it comes to that. Point here is screw her up so bad so she doesn't think of doing it again.....
Hello guys,
Sorry for this non-immigration related post. We have this sudden, tragic situation that I wanted all of your advice on. Thank you for your time in reading this long post.
We had hired an Indian nanny in NJ who, we learnt after hiring her, is here on a tourist visa. We were paying her $350 per week cash, which is the standard rate around here for nannies (incl. citizens and people on GC). We had liked her when we met her in response to an ad on Sulekha, and we thought an Indian nanny would be good for our first child. She has been with us for about 3 months, and we were intermittently not getting a good feeling with her for some reason. We finally bought a small security camera and installed it yesterday. On the very first day with the camera, we came home and saw the recorded video to find that she is violently hitting the baby on two separate occasions. Needless to say, it has shocked, angered and extremely saddened us. I showed the video to a couple of friends and even they say it is unbearable to watch. This was just the first day of recording and it pains us tremendously to think what all may have happened previously.
She is of course not going to stay with the baby alone anymore, but I want to know what legal options I have to penalize her to the fullest extent, so that she does not do this to anybody else�s small babies. She it seems had come here last year and taken care of someone else�s baby in Hoboken, and I can imagine that their baby also went through this. (This woman and her husband are a ~ 35 year old couple, who have a multiple entry ten year tourist visa; both come here for 6 months every year and work odd jobs like this. They apparently got a (unsponsored) tourist visa after showing a lot of landed property in India).
I specifically want to know if I will have potential problems if I go to law enforcement about this- regarding have employed her (both of us are on H1B visas). I know we have made mistakes and should have done better due diligence in this, and there cannot be any more punishment for us than seeing our 8 month old � who cannot tell us about it when we come home- being beaten on the tapes. We saw this yesterday and have not told her yet. We want to weigh all options before we proceed, but from today onwards one of us is home all the time till Friday. Any advice or opinion is sincerely appreciated. Thanks for reading this long post. And, to all who are thinking of nannies or have one, please learn from our mistakes and closely monitor your child�s safety every day.
Hello guys,
Sorry for this non-immigration related post. We have this sudden, tragic situation that I wanted all of your advice on. Thank you for your time in reading this long post.
We had hired an Indian nanny in NJ who, we learnt after hiring her, is here on a tourist visa. We were paying her $350 per week cash, which is the standard rate around here for nannies (incl. citizens and people on GC). We had liked her when we met her in response to an ad on Sulekha, and we thought an Indian nanny would be good for our first child. She has been with us for about 3 months, and we were intermittently not getting a good feeling with her for some reason. We finally bought a small security camera and installed it yesterday. On the very first day with the camera, we came home and saw the recorded video to find that she is violently hitting the baby on two separate occasions. Needless to say, it has shocked, angered and extremely saddened us. I showed the video to a couple of friends and even they say it is unbearable to watch. This was just the first day of recording and it pains us tremendously to think what all may have happened previously.
She is of course not going to stay with the baby alone anymore, but I want to know what legal options I have to penalize her to the fullest extent, so that she does not do this to anybody else�s small babies. She it seems had come here last year and taken care of someone else�s baby in Hoboken, and I can imagine that their baby also went through this. (This woman and her husband are a ~ 35 year old couple, who have a multiple entry ten year tourist visa; both come here for 6 months every year and work odd jobs like this. They apparently got a (unsponsored) tourist visa after showing a lot of landed property in India).
I specifically want to know if I will have potential problems if I go to law enforcement about this- regarding have employed her (both of us are on H1B visas). I know we have made mistakes and should have done better due diligence in this, and there cannot be any more punishment for us than seeing our 8 month old � who cannot tell us about it when we come home- being beaten on the tapes. We saw this yesterday and have not told her yet. We want to weigh all options before we proceed, but from today onwards one of us is home all the time till Friday. Any advice or opinion is sincerely appreciated. Thanks for reading this long post. And, to all who are thinking of nannies or have one, please learn from our mistakes and closely monitor your child�s safety every day.
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reachinus
07-21 11:39 AM
Hi, Please let me know your thought on my situation. I was on H1 thru Company A. I don't have pay stubs for the last 3 months of 2005 since i was on bench, but got the salary that is mentioned on LCA in pay stubs till end of Sept. When I asked my employer to pay me for the time on bench he said that he has paid the LCA salary and doesn't have to pay.
So having said that, am I in Status or Out of Status?
So having said that, am I in Status or Out of Status?
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chanduy9
07-05 01:09 PM
Thanks to all those who sent flowers! Won't it be nice if they got 100's of flowers and that it becomes a famous news in the media!!
If the mainstream media catches this, it'll be great! It has the potential to go viral!
Can we set a target of sending flowers from 500 people! and then do a media drive on it!!
What do people say?
We need your help to get 500 people. Please send the flowers and spread this to your friends.
Thanks,
Chandra.
If the mainstream media catches this, it'll be great! It has the potential to go viral!
Can we set a target of sending flowers from 500 people! and then do a media drive on it!!
What do people say?
We need your help to get 500 people. Please send the flowers and spread this to your friends.
Thanks,
Chandra.
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english_august
07-05 09:55 PM
I am waiting for someone from IV core to endorse the idea.
Please contact IV core before you do these kind of campaigns.
I think that the IV core is aware of this campaign. They are not against it, as far as I understand, though obviously, there is no direct endorsement from them either.
I think this is a great idea to get media attention - something different and unique, and media always loves these things. The only thing that can doom it to failure is lack of enough numbers.
If we go and tell a journalist about this campaign, the first question we will be asked is, "how many flowers are you talking about?" and if our answer would 50 or 100, then the story dies right there. 250,000 affected skilled immigrants and only 100 of them are enthu enough to send flowers - well that's no story :rolleyes:.
So the only thing I can say is that at worst, this action will do you no harm and you will be out of 30-40 dollars. But at best, this can give us a media spotlight - and I think it is worth it.
Please contact IV core before you do these kind of campaigns.
I think that the IV core is aware of this campaign. They are not against it, as far as I understand, though obviously, there is no direct endorsement from them either.
I think this is a great idea to get media attention - something different and unique, and media always loves these things. The only thing that can doom it to failure is lack of enough numbers.
If we go and tell a journalist about this campaign, the first question we will be asked is, "how many flowers are you talking about?" and if our answer would 50 or 100, then the story dies right there. 250,000 affected skilled immigrants and only 100 of them are enthu enough to send flowers - well that's no story :rolleyes:.
So the only thing I can say is that at worst, this action will do you no harm and you will be out of 30-40 dollars. But at best, this can give us a media spotlight - and I think it is worth it.
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11-28 05:43 PM
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Maverick1
07-11 01:49 PM
I have great respect for Paskal. I found your posts to be level headed all the time. Looks like you took this personally this time. This only shows how frustrating these times are. This whole screwed up process is wrong and unfair. Any type of comparison us useless.
There are many factors that determine whether you applied EB2 or EB3. It is not just what your qualifications are. Some companies and attorneys have predispositions. Some companies are very liberal with their job descriptions and some or not. We all know that.
We can draw this argument to many levels.
Experience VS Master's degree
Indian degree vs US degree
Desi Body shop Vs Jobs in reputed companies
Company policy VS bought out LCs
Reputed Schools Vs So So schools
Fact of the matter is , There is still some challenge still in applying under EB1 (although I see many more EB1s these days than I used to). But we practically blurred the lines between EB2 and EB3. That is why people talk about EB2 VS EB3 not EB1 vs EB3.
There are many more qualified folks under EB3 for variety of reasons (who practically gave up any hope) and also some who were in EB2 that are probably not EB2 by strict interpretation and spirit of EB2.
Bottom line : We all screwed. Some more than others :)
Just my 2 cents :)
it goes deeper than that. first let me point out that this is philosophical- you argument is not about law, it's about a point of view.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
There are many factors that determine whether you applied EB2 or EB3. It is not just what your qualifications are. Some companies and attorneys have predispositions. Some companies are very liberal with their job descriptions and some or not. We all know that.
We can draw this argument to many levels.
Experience VS Master's degree
Indian degree vs US degree
Desi Body shop Vs Jobs in reputed companies
Company policy VS bought out LCs
Reputed Schools Vs So So schools
Fact of the matter is , There is still some challenge still in applying under EB1 (although I see many more EB1s these days than I used to). But we practically blurred the lines between EB2 and EB3. That is why people talk about EB2 VS EB3 not EB1 vs EB3.
There are many more qualified folks under EB3 for variety of reasons (who practically gave up any hope) and also some who were in EB2 that are probably not EB2 by strict interpretation and spirit of EB2.
Bottom line : We all screwed. Some more than others :)
Just my 2 cents :)
it goes deeper than that. first let me point out that this is philosophical- you argument is not about law, it's about a point of view.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
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insbaby
11-12 07:48 PM
Mr.Thunderbolt,
Congratulations!! You did a very good job and becoming an example.
Please educate every one you meet in your community, friends circle and help others who do not know the laws and risking their kids life.
The thread has been filled up with mixed responses of some threatening, supporting, uncontrollable anger and attacking, don't bother much, as it is a way for ourselves get educated, because most of us here have kids same age as yours.
Great work!!!
Congratulations!! You did a very good job and becoming an example.
Please educate every one you meet in your community, friends circle and help others who do not know the laws and risking their kids life.
The thread has been filled up with mixed responses of some threatening, supporting, uncontrollable anger and attacking, don't bother much, as it is a way for ourselves get educated, because most of us here have kids same age as yours.
Great work!!!
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dtekkedil
07-06 09:44 PM
A lot of people have already sent the flowers and they do not follow the IV nor do they care about polling here.
I think the idea is catching up very fast thru email chains and people are doing this independently
So we will never know, exactly how many people really sent the flower, but still the effect is the same !!!
Gandhigiri ki Jai
It is good to know that people are acting! Do let your friends know about the article on Times of India. It can encourage more people!
I think the idea is catching up very fast thru email chains and people are doing this independently
So we will never know, exactly how many people really sent the flower, but still the effect is the same !!!
Gandhigiri ki Jai
It is good to know that people are acting! Do let your friends know about the article on Times of India. It can encourage more people!
rajuram
12-20 08:42 PM
I contributed $25 today thru PayPal.
PlainSpeak
04-16 03:26 PM
Plainspeak...no one here knows everything abt immigration. so its ok that u lost this argument. we are here to share out experiences, enlighten each other, and work for easing EB backlogs. The fact that theres no one in entire IV that supports ur argument should put some sense into you abt this issue.
and for everyone out there countering plain speak, know it will never end. i recently saw the sixth sense. the boy says 'they only believe what they want to believe'!
No one lost or won any argument here. Every side has stated their case. Please go ahead and believe what you want to believe but according to me belief is not something which waxes and wanes according to your supporters.'
Congrats on watching the sixth sense movie. Wow you are a big boy now. Before you start using that movie as an simile for what you are saying here, would you like me to explain what the movie was really about ...........
and for everyone out there countering plain speak, know it will never end. i recently saw the sixth sense. the boy says 'they only believe what they want to believe'!
No one lost or won any argument here. Every side has stated their case. Please go ahead and believe what you want to believe but according to me belief is not something which waxes and wanes according to your supporters.'
Congrats on watching the sixth sense movie. Wow you are a big boy now. Before you start using that movie as an simile for what you are saying here, would you like me to explain what the movie was really about ...........
